Hugh J. Moore is a blue-blood lawyer at Chambliss Bahner & Stophel law firm — and he oversees the people’s crucial rights-protecting body, the Hamilton County concurrent grand jury. (Photo Chambliss Bahner Stophel)

Hugh Moore Mr. Tulis, this is Hugh Moore returning your call to my office.

Tulis Thank you for ringing back. I appreciate it very much. Sir, did you get a copy of my demand letter regarding my desire to testify before the grand jury?

Mr. Moore Yes.

[This April 13 phone call is a development in my efforts to open a grand jury investigation into police and sheriff department abuse of the “grounds for arrest by officer without warrant” law that is being — accidentally, unintentionally, unknowingly no doubt — misread to allow officers to arrest anyone anytime without a warrant — creating a “general warrants” scheme of government forbidden by the Tennessee bill of rights. Given the CV-19 panic, there is some urgency in my efforts to rein in the white legal political establishment’s longstanding abuse of the people. — DJT]

‘Triable crime, indictable crime’ by officer

Tulis Yessir. Well, that is what I’m asking to do, and I am looking at violations of [Tenn. Code Ann. §] 40-7-103, which is the statute regarding power of arrest by officer without a warrant. That happens a lot in this country, sir, arrest by officer without a warrant outside the scope of that statute. And that would constitute a public offense. It would also constitute a triable crime and indictable crime. And so — I do have firsthand knowledge of an arrest against the provisos of that statute. And I am demanding an audience, No. 1. And No. 2, Mr. Moore, I am demanding that I get to choose my two fellow grand jury members to hear my, uh, my material.

Mr. Moore [Clearing throat]

Tulis Which I have a right to do. I have a right to choose — I have a right to designate two grand jury members other than you who will hear my initial pleadings and evidence so that I can have the whole grand jury hear the lot of my report.

[Silence]

Mr. Moore Yes, I did receive the letter which said the whole of what you just said.

Tulis All right, where do we go from here, as you are the foreman of one of the grand juries?

Mr. Moore Have you talked to Jimmy [Anderson — foreman of the first grand jury]?

Tulis I made a presentation to Mr. [Anderson] orally about this matter last year. *** I did speak with Mr. Anderson in person in the grand jury meeting room — I believe it was December.

Mr. Moore I’m sure he would tell you something. The grand jury is not in session, so —

Tulis The grand jury needs to get into session, sir.

Shocking power of grand jury to halt police abuse

Mr. Moore So, uh, one of us will respond to your letter.

Tulis Well, I left a hard copy at the, with Mr. —  with one of our deputies there, for both of you, with a copy of the statute and —

Mr. Moore I’m familiar with the statute

Tulis OK, I know you are. I am too. So, my claim is the grand jury needs to get into action.   The grand jury is not controlled by the state, Mr. Moore. The grand jury is controlled by the people. It is the people’s government spoiler. It is the people’s body. It is the people who constitute the grand jury. It does not take orders from anybody. It is an independent roving commission, with powers of investigation, powers to sniff out corruption, power to sniff out abuse. It represents the people’s interests, sir, and your body, your grand jury, has ignored detailed reporting on some of these offenses. Do you — do you read the press, Mr. Moore? Do you follow the work that I put out there for free? — It’s out there.

Mr. Moore I’m a former newspaper reporter. I read lots of things.

Tulis Well, do you read TNtrafficticket.us?

Mr Moore I read lots of things. I just don’t know what it is.

Tulis Well, OK, then you haven’t —

Mr. Moore Look, I’m really not going to discuss this right now. The GJ is not in session. They’re back in session in May. And either Jimmy or I will respond to your letter.

Tulis Well, there is a —

Mr. Moore Jimmy is the foreman of the grand jury. I’m not the foreman of the grand jury

Tulis Are you not the foreman of the concurrent grand jury, Mr. Moore?

Mr. Moore Yes I am, but Jimmy is the foreman of the grand jury.

Tulis So you’re the ancillary grand jury, the second one, not the first one. You’re not the foreman of the grand jury.

Mr. Moore I’m the foreman of the concurrent grand jury.

Tulis Right, OK. Right. **** The problem, Mr. Moore is this. We face, Mr. Moore, with the epidemic —

Mr. Moore I really don’t want to discuss any of this right now. The grand jury is not in session. Jimmy Anderson is the foreman of the grand jury. I’m the foreman of the concurrent grand jury. I received your letter. Either Jimmy or I will respond to your letter. I’m not interested in discussing anything. My power is out, I’m not just not interested in discussing anything right now.

A national emergency

Tulis Well, how do I get a hold of Mr. Anderson, please?

Mr. Moore I don’t know how you get in touch with Mr. Anderson.

Tulis Do you have his number?

Mr. Moore I do not think that I have his number, no. He has an email address at the courthouse. 

Tulis Can you tell me what that is, because I don’t think I have it?

Mr. Moore *** My power’s been out since 11 oclock last night. *** You went by my office, apparently, and you talked to people at my office, and my assistant called me this morning and said you’d called and had some urgent problem.

Tulis Yes, I do.

Mr. Moore So I’m trying to call you back, and um, so.

Tulis, Well, the urgent problem is —

Mr. Moore — Mr. Anderson and I have received your letter. You’ll get a response. There is no grand jury in session. I’m sitting here with my power out right now, and I really don’t want to discuss anything. OK?

Tulis — There is a state emergency and a national emergency and the grand jury needs to be apprised of danger to the people’s rights from mass arrests, mass policing and violation of the statute that’s in question, 40-7-103. That’s my statement.

Mr. Moore. That’s fine. You can say whatever you want to say. But you’ll receive a response to the letter,  from either Mr. Anderson, who is the foreman of the grand jury who you really oughta be talking to —

Tulis Yes,  sir.

Mr. Moore The statute refers to the grand jury. You ought to be talking to the foreman of the grand jury, not talking to me. Not talking to my assistant, you know. The statute refers to the grand jury. Jimmy Anderson is the foreman of the grand jury. You ought to be talking to him. 

Government panic = abuse of your rights

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